I guess I need to tidy up my start menu. I installed another app this evening on the 98 computer and went to find it on the start bar. however, I have the start menu cascading across the screen, 4 levels wide but there are too many apps to fit that the new ones do not appear on the menu! It *really* is time that the software is tidied up. BUT a lot could be said for making the installation of start menu’s in setup programs a lot better.Most of them do not allow you to nest your applications inside existing groups. Sure you can move them afterwards, but then the uninstall programs do not find the moved icons and you end up with a situation like mine!